Hi André and all,
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From: André <psytrancekid@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: MD Consciousness
> > >
> > > > Gary's Response: The mind is not a collective
> > noun
> > > > but a singular noun.
> > > > Each and every human being has one singular
> > mind.
> > > > It is the term for our
> > > > experience of thinking and being aware. It is
> > our
> > > > experience of processing
> > > > our thoughts, memories, feeling, emotions, and
> > all
> > > > our sensory events.
> > >
> > > Gary,
> > >
> > > Food for thought I hope ...
> > >
> > > Computers have memories of the past. Thermometers
> > feel
> > > hot and cold. Cameras can see. A tear is the child
> > of
> > > emotion. Is there a place in your metaphysics for
> > any
> > > of these objects having a mind?
> > >
> > > André
> > >
> > Gary's Response: All of the things you list have no
> > self awareness. They
> > are carries of data without awareness of the data.
> > Without self-awareness
> > they lack mind.
>
> What is the difference between self and mind? Or could
> mind-awareness be used instead? Is one self-aware when
> asleep?
>
> André
>
Gary's Response: The mind is the "place" of all mental activities. It is
the experience of having a body that can process and be aware of existing.
The mind is recognizing that we can hear own thoughts and that we can see,
feel, taste, touch, etc. The self is our construct that develops over time
to identify ourselves and different from other people we meet.
Self-awareness is the process built into our body, especially in our nervous
system. If when we sleep we dream then we are experiencing self-awareness.
If when we sleep we do not seem to dream then there is no experience of
self-awareness. Self-awareness is an experience of a process of mental
activity of the body. "mind-awareness"? Perhaps. Those objects:
cameras, thermometers, tears, etc are all passive tools which were not built
to be aware of the activities that they are engaged in doing. Thus no
self-awareness. No mind. The mind requires a self reflexive,
self-reflective, and recursive structure.
Gary
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