Hi David,
I have read some Wilber, but there is such allot of it i have not read it all
what with other stuff i should like to get through.
I quite agree that commenting upon ideas one has not taken the time to
assimilate is unacceptable, and your story is one i have experienced myself.
OK.
I feel Wilber's books are exposition.
I have not read, or read commentary material in this forum, that reveals
original thinking on Wilber's part.
I cannot attack ideas that are not there?
And i see no reason to attack Wilber when he expounds upon the ideas of
others; i may as well bypass the monkey and talk to the organ grinder?
I am a great fan of A. H. Maslow's Humanistic third force psychology for
example.
May i offer recent questions posed by DMB as evidence?
He asks why we are not getting excited by core religious concerns - perennial
philosophy?
DMB quotes Wilber asking the same questions pointing out that such concerns
are empirical.
It is staggering that DMB does not immediately see the connection with
Quality AS core religious concern - perennial philosophy.
We know DMB did not immediately see the connection because he had to repeat
his questions a week after they had initially fallen upon deaf ears?
This for me is a prime example of valuing structured static pattern to the
point of simply forgetting about that which creates the patterns in the first
place?
And let's face it, for anyone who is in this position, Wilber will quite
happily sell you half a dozen titles, with more on the way, to satisfy your
need.
In short, Wilber is a charlatan because he panders to his identified audience
and apparently has no sincere aim other than to maintain sales, while
advocating a transpersonal approach to psychology that, one feels, would
reduce the audience for which his books are intended?
T Lobsang Rampa achieved a similar effect by never revealing an implied
disclosure regarding the future development of the Human aura while knocking
out dozens of titles.
Pirsig chose metaphysics as his area of thought because he identified a
source of patterned reality, and metaphysics is precisely the area
traditionally given to such concerns in the West.
Once stated, there was no need to say it again other than to illustrate the
quality of his insight with examples.
Indeed, Lila is a combination of high level exposition of his thought with
ostensible support; he shows how the MOQ works.
This is not enough for many students who need, for reasons we may not wish to
go into hear, for more, and more, and more, never quite getting enough and
never being quite satisfied with the best. For the best in MOQ terms ends a
need for knowledge.
Wishing you quality,
Squonk.
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