Bo, John and all:
Bo said:
Naturally I am frustrated by the Wilber campaign that's going on. The reason
that John Beasley likes W. is obvious - he never had a clue what the MOQ is
about - but that DMB has taken the bait (and compares notes with Gary of how
to align Pirsig's and Wilber) saddens me.
DMB says:
At the risk of making you even sadder, I have to insist that it goes even
further than you suggest. Not only is it possible to align Pirsig's levels
with Wilber's, they both can be aligned with the hierarchies of being found
in all the world's Great religions and with the research of dozens of
developmental psychologists. In other words, its reasonable to compare
Wilber and Pirsig simply because they both reflect something like a
universal truth. Apparently, this truth transcends historical context,
cultural bias and can be empirically verified. That's tough to beat. I think
it only adds to the validity of the MOQ, and I would have thought that would
only make you happy. Perhaps you're saddened because it means the MOQ is
very far from unique on this matter?
BO said:
Wilber's "spirituality" is poison to the MOQ.
DMB says:
Poison? How so? I see this as just one more parallel between them. As I
understand it, Wilber's "spirit" is very much like Pirsig's DQ. Both terms
refer to the ulimate ground of being AND the goal of existence. So, saying
Wilber's spirituality is "poison" is alot like saying that DQ is poison.
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