Taking moq on board is like sipping poisoned wine, but many will feel unwell
yet drink even more in the hope of relief. That's what i have seen around
here. Throwing moq and the rest away, one can drink from the pure streams of
mountain water and laugh out loud at ones folly!
Then you can talk as much as you like, just for fun.
Zykaine (the challenger of drunkards)
>From: "Gary Jaron" <gershomdreamer@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
>Subject: Re: MD what a mess
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:26:50 -0700
>
>Andre,
>Taoism existed well before Pirsig, this is true. But Taoism is framed in
>Romantic Quality terms and thus is not "well formed " for a Classic Quality
>audience. Pirsig created a Classic Quality formatted Taoism, in a sense.
>But he did something also very new and significant. The significance is
>that there is a difference between using 'Tao' and using 'Quality'.
>Quality-Taoism is different from Tao-Taoism. Thus Pirsig's system is not
>exactly equivalent to Taoism, although the two are similar.
>Actually we are not " arguing about the meaning of Quality ". We are
>discussing and arguing on many occasions about the application of Quality
>in
>specific instances. Significantly different than "arguing about the
>meaning of Quality ".
>
>Difference are significant,
>Gary
>----- Original Message -----
>From: André <psytrancekid@yahoo.co.uk>
>To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
>Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 12:03 PM
>Subject: Re: MD what a mess
>
>
> > --- Gary Jaron <gershomdreamer@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi
> > Zykaine,
> > > Actually Pirsig did write something new, it is
> > > simply that you are not
> > > recognizing it as new due to some specifically
> > > personal factors of your own.
> > > The explanation of why you react to Pirsig the way
> > > you do is something to do
> > > with what ideas have shaped you before you
> > > encountered Pirsig.
> > >
> > > What is new is the idea that Quality is a word for
> > > the Tao.
> >
> > Pirsig took a well formed metaphysics, Taoism, and
> > made it harder to understand. This group will be
> > arguing about the meaning of Quality until the end of
> > time :o)
> >
> > André
> >
> >
> >
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