RE: MD MOQ Teleology and Counter-arguments

From: Erin Noonan (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Sat Jul 27 2002 - 18:45:28 BST


ROG:>In conclusion, the MOQ's take on evolution is Duck Squeeze. It is a
mixture
>of half truths, distortions, misunderstandings, unsupported leaps of logic
>and mysticism. Natural selection is indeed dynamic. Natural selection does
>indeed have the capacity to lead to undefined fitness. But it is also true
>that a pair of die has the capability to come up "snake-eyes" (double ones).
>It does not follow though that die have a goal or purpose to be "snake-eyes."
>
>Wake up Squadies and smell the coffee! Corrections and counter-arguments
>welcome!
>

I was agreeing with most of what you wrote but I thought your
snake-eyes analogy sucks. Taken from that article you referenced.

"Chance plays a part in evolution (for example, in the random mutations that
can give rise to new traits), but evolution does not depend on chance to
create organisms, proteins or other entities. Quite the opposite: natural
selection, the principal known mechanism of evolution, harnesses nonrandom
change by preserving "desirable" (adaptive) features and eliminating
"undesirable" (nonadaptive) ones. As long as the forces of selection stay
constant, natural selection can push evolution in one direction and produce
sophisticated structures in surprisingly short times."

to all,
chance plays a role in evolution is a much different claim then
evolution is due to random processes. What do you suppose
the constant forces of selection are?
Einstein's "god does not play dice" is not proven wrong by
evolutionists. (nor is it proven right by MOQ)

you know what you can do with your snake eyes and cup of coffee (just kidding)

Sometimes i think evolutionist theorists think they are the
desinger;) The weatherman yesterday said he was going to
try to keep the weather nice for today's ballgame.
Wasn't that awful nice of him:)
Weatherman is to evolutionist as weather is to intelligence.

erin

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