some of us think that William James got it completely wrong......
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Jaron" <gershomdreamer@yahoo.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: MD Creationism.
> Hi 3WD!
>
> Excellent definition of "religious experience''! William James is great.
> Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 3dwavedave <dlt44@ipa.net>
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> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 8:07 AM
> Subject: Re: MD Creationism.
>
>
> > John
> >
> > You asked:
> >
> > > Can I ask how you define "religious experiences"?
> >
> > Well first I guess one would have to say under the MoQ it would have to
> > be dynamic, "direct experience prior to intellectual abstraction"
> > Further qualified by the definition of "religion" William James uses in
> > his lecture "Circumscription of the Religious Topic" where he says:
> >
> > "Religion, therefore, as I now ask you arbritrarily to take it, shall
> > mean for us the feelings, acts, and experiences of individual men in
> > their solitude, so far as they apprehend themselves to stand in relation
> > to whatever they may consider the divine."
> >
> > Or something like:
> >
> > Religous experience is, "direct experience prior to intellectual
> > abstraction of individual men in their solitude, so far as they
> > apprehend themselves to stand in relation to whatever they may consider
> > the divine". These experiences, after intellectual abstraction, have
> > been variously described as feelings of , "religious" fear, love, joy,
> > awe,unity, and so forth.
> >
> > 3WD
> >
> >
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