Hey Platt,
I think I agree with you the most. The argument against
teleological always uses inanimate objects with an assumption
about what SOM assumptions about what constitutes inorganic awareness. I also
agree about seeking out paradoxes. I have been thinking about this freedom
thing. Somewhere Pirsig said that hippies viewed freedom as a negative
goal, away from something, just that something was bad.
A mechanistic explanations seems "hippie" to me in that way.
Glenn is the hippiest of hippies:)
You set these hippies straight Platt--no matter how New Age
you get, Old Age is gonna kick your ass.
Freedom toward something is paradoxical don't you think?
Another thing that I think is really at root here about disagreeing
about teleological is our conception of time.
PIRSIG: This book has a lot to say about Ancient Greek perspectives and their
meaning but there is one perspective it misses. That is their view of time.
They saw the future as something that came upon them from behind their backs
with the past receding away before their eyes.
When you think about it, that's a more accurate metaphor than our present one.
Who really can face the future? All you can do is project from the past, even
when the past shows that such projections are often wrong. And who really can
forget the past? What else is there to know?
>"We see he's (a scientist) conducting his experiments for exactly the
>same purpose as the subatomic forces had when they first began to
>create him billions of years ago." (11)
>
>"The higher level can often be see to be in opposition to the lower level,
>dominating it, controlling it for its own purposes." (12)
>
>"Just as biology exploits substance for its own purposes, so does this
>social pattern called a city exploit biology for its own purposes." (17)
>
>And the "killer" quote:
>
>"Dharma is Quality itself, the principle of "rightness" which gives
>structure and purpose to the evolution of all life and to the evolving
>understanding of the universe which life has created." (30)
>
>Finally as you may recall. I seek out the paradoxes because I think
>they, like beauty and laughter, get close to fire of truth. So I wonder
>what's the purpose in believing the universe has no purpose?
>
>Now aren't you glad to be back again? (-:
>
>Platt
>
>
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