Keith wrote:
I'm committing a crime (misdemeanor in my judgment) because I'm destroying
a biological pattern of life in favor of inorganic death. However, I'm not
destroying an intellect. The spider has no capacity for symbolic
manipulation and culture.
Keith, perhaps, perhaps not. but if a spider has no capacity for symbolic
manipulation, why do they construct their webs in the fashion that they do?
Keith wrote:
Neither are there specific locations in the DNA strand for a lot of other
behaviors. That doesn't mean they don't derive from the complex interaction
of genotype and phenotype during the actual life of an entity. I don't
believe that this is evidence of intellectual behavior. As I tried to show
in my Cybernetic post, intellect is a form of constraint on culture, which
can be viewed as the continual exchange of ideas from one mind to another.
Keith, i didnt bring up the DNA and i am ill prepared to discuss it...i was
merely responding to Marys query. i would have to go back and re read and
quote Sheldrake extensively before i could really answer you. however, i
went back and re read your cybernetics post and i will see if i can check
out the website you suggested. and i did come across something interesting
in your post:
Keith wrote:
COGNITIVE: the origin of mind, i.e. the basic cybernetic, cognitive
organization, going from simple reflexes to complex nervous systems,
learning, and thought.
Keith, this was part of your cybernetics post of 12/8/98. simple reflexes
would cover instinct, to my way of thinking. if that is true then i fail to
see the cause of your disagreement with my placing of instinct in the
intellect level instead of the biological. clearly they belong to the
intellect. and the cyber-people seem to agree with me as well. and i can see
where cognitive could indeed be placed before the social and the social
level regarded then as the highest. i just dont think that is right however.
best wishes,
glove
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