THE ABOMINABLE SNOWMAN GROWLS AGAIN.
Hi Bodvar
i too share your concerns, yet even Pirsig himself acknowledges subjects and
objects in his Metaphysics of Quality when he says in so many words that the
inorganic and biological levels correspond to object while the
social/intellect levels corresponds to subject. this is a pragmatic tool to
use and nothing more. and even while i was writing that passage to Keith you
cited, i knew someone would object strongly to it.
if we are to ignore zen, subject and objects, and put all intincts and
intuition in the biological level, we are right back where we
started...hopelessly mired in preconceived notions and agreements that lead
nowhere. i find it odd that you feel the same way only a mirrored image of
my feelings...very strange. but life is like that.
i am not out to amuse anyone with my writings here, as a rule, and so the
fact that you are not amused is a good start, in my opinion. and no, i do
not see the Metaphysics of Quality as a liberation from subject/object
metaphysics. to my way of thinking, that is an impossible thing. we are
bound to subject/object thinking by the very way we perceive reality.
i disagree with your reasoning in condemning the recent posts on zen,
spiders and instinct and i disagree with your siding with Keith, Horse and
Mary. i am still at a loss to answer Keiths latest post to me after i
pointed out how similar his cybernetics contribution was to my own way of
thinking. in fact i see no way of even answering it.
i am also not so sure that Pirsig could not be described in the same way you
describe Sheldrake. for what is Dynamic Quality if not mysticism? and as for
any physicists not believing in forces and particles having any existence,
again i disagree. i would point you to a wonderful little book called "The
Concept of Object as the Foundation of Physics" by Irving Stein, recommended
by my friend Doug Renselle. it is is fascinating little book that will shed
much light on the concepts of objects as we understand them in our reality.
many best wishes
glove
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