Re: MD quality and mind

From: Fintan Dunne (findunne@iol.ie)
Date: Mon Dec 14 1998 - 14:03:45 GMT


Hi David, Squad

From: David Buchanan <DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org>

Welcome to the Squad, David

>The conversation is better than I hoped for,
>although surprized at the scatology and brutality.

We may maul each other here but we ARE passionate.
It's like you just walked into a room where a family row has been going on
for the last hour. Hopefully, we all get embarassed now and start assuring
you that we love each other REALLY.

>I'd love to go on, but the topic is brain, mind, and intellect, isn't it?

Don't let THAT hold you back!

>The neurosciences are inherently reductionist.
>In the real world history has shown repeatedly that biological
>explainations for human nature and behavior have been used by
>authoritarian governments to justify exploitation, slavery, war and
>genocide. Reductionism is a right-wing thing and it gets alot of people
>killed.

Too True! But we have to come down out of the lofty heights of
metaphysics as well- and deal with the world where neuroscience
is regarded as definitive of reality rather than supplementary.

>>>DQ is the underlying evolutionary force and it created
our brains and minds. The MOQ is very flattering to human consciousness.

We flatter ourselves enough already about our own minds
and OUR achievements- as if we were the source of DQ
not the product!

>>>One more idea. This one is from Robert Thurman. He's a Tibetan Buddhist
scholar and Uma's dad. In "Inner Revolution" he says if you want to
understand consciousness you gotta go East. He says Western science has
mastered material reality and was able to put a man on the moon, but that
the East has achieved an equally stunning feat in the inner realm.

To my thinking, wandering around a dead rock in the sky- while your fellow
humans starve is a tragedy rather than an achievement. The achievements of
the East are truly worthy of our admiration.

love

Fintan

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