Hi Jonathan and Squad
You wrote:
> A question to Magnus. Is there any type of thought that is not IntPoV?
No.
> If not, you might have an argument with Bodvar, who objects
> to regarding
> IntPoV as "thought itself".
I don't think so. I said that all thoughts are IntPoVs, I didn't say that
all IntPoVs are thoughts.
> Magnus, I take you perfectly seriously. I'm sorry if my lack
> of writing
> skills mean that you fail to understand the logic of my objections
> (which you frequently ignore).
Sorry, I'll put it on my New Year resolution list.
> I put human morality where it always was. MAN IS THE MEASURE.
> That's the whole Quality idea. The "codes" are a product of morality,
> not the other way round.
I disagree. That's not the Quality idea. Morality, reality and Quality
were around long before man entered the stage, and will be around long
after we're gone.
> "Rigel morality" puts codes first. Rigel condemns Pirsig for
> violating a
> code.
But those codes have nothing to do with reality.
> >Homo sapiens
> >killed the other race because they could, and it was moral.
> >It was moral because they could, and they could because it was
> >moral. Morality = Reality. I doubt the same Rigel-moralist
> >would claim this event to be moral....
>
> By this logic, the Holocaust was moral! Sorry Magnus, I reject that
> outright.
Hold your horses! Who said the Jewish people was another race?
> >But it goes deeper than that, it also means that every event
> >in every level happens because it is moral. ...
>
> That says that immorality is only about the things that never happen.
> What a waste of time discussing morality then!
Not quite, DQ may cause immoral events. But since the alternative
is a static and degenerate world, it's more moral with DQ than
without. I'd say the Holocaust was such an event.
Magnus
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