dear david:
you say:
<So one of the tests to determine the "quality" of an idea, or anything
else, is to look at the results of it in the "real world". By this test,
the NAZIs were obvious failures. So even if you could argue that their's was
a valid intellectual level movement, we can conclude, from experience, that
it was not moral.
lithien:
i dont know if you missed the e i sent you on this. it was after your
comment on not understanding Hitler. i think to understand Hitler one had
to read Hegel's philosophy on the universals superceding the individual.
Hegel believed in the state as an organism (much like Pirsig describes the
static social level btw) which superseded an individual's rights. only an
individual who encompassed the state's mythos was important...like Napoleon,
and of course, Hitler himself. i see this as giving higher value to the
social level than the intellectual level. i thin therefore it was doomed to
failure since as we see in the MOQ the intellectual level is more advanced
and had more value as a result.
you add:
<Fascism is immoral due to its attempt to replace intellectual values with
social values.
lithien: that's it!
finally you said:
<Watch out when the conservative become radical or revolutionary. Now he has
become a reactionary.
lithien:
who? Clinton?
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