Greetings,
JONATHAN:
"I see no problem here. Pirsig certainly shouldn't be our reference for
understanding quantum physics. Pirsig has simply latched on what plenty
of others also see - a discrepancy between modern physics and common
sense. MoQ has little to add to physics, but has a lot to say about
common sense. After all, isn't "shared values" another way of saying
common sense?"
I couldn't agree more but suspect Bo will seek to have you rusticated for it.
JONATHAN:
http://indycc1.agri.huji.ac.il/~marder/Science_Philosophy/Causality.htm
I found it impossible to contradict any of this Jonathan. Your, 'The Cause of Change,' paragraph
could use some clarification of your reasons for putting 'almost' in brackets. Is there an argument
for replacing (in this context) 'objective cause' with 'external cause' and for leaving out
'subjective cause' in favour of its elaboration, 'inherent tendency?' I don't see the advantage in
putting it the way you do and the bracketed 'almost' suggests you aren't quite sure yourself. In
addition I hope your last paragraph will receive some further elaboration to illustrate the point
more fully. Any thoughts?
GLOVE:
"I don't pretend to have any idea what I am talking about when it
comes to complementarity or quantum mechanics. . . . . . . so I
will try and tell you why I think you are wrong."
Is this a joke?
ROGER:
"The point i want to make is that anyone that believes in particles, a) doesn't
follow the MOQ, and b) doesn't agree with modern physics.
Particles are abstract intellectual concepts describing value interactions."
Hmm . . . so you do believe in particles then? If they are something why don't you believe in them.
Surely a cat is just as much an abstract intellectual concept as a particle, but it is still useful
to be able to discern it from the sofa when I sit down. Do you not think that the universe can be
perceived in terms of particles, waves, or quality depending upon the context that suits us best and
the explanatory power each provides in that particular context?
Struan
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Struan Hellier
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"All our best activities involve desires which are disciplined and
purified in the process."
(Iris Murdoch)
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