>Rick:
>Glove,
>You wrote:
>"The pre-conditioned fear of the unknown is what causes us to
>hold on so tightly to static quality patterns of value, or in the MOQ,
>static quality values preconditioned fear to create stable patterns of
>value."
>
>Me:
>Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I was always under the impression that it
>is a fear of the KNOWN that causes us to cling to SPov's. Fear of the
>harsh laws of the jungle (BPov's) causes us to value and cling to society
>(SPov's). Fear of uncontrolled societies (i.e. Fascism, totalitarianism)
>causes us to cling to the intellect (IPov's). Is this wrong???
>
Glove:
I'm not so sure that Facism and toalitarianism could be called uncontrolled.
Aren't these societies much more controlling than a democracy? They
persecute the intellectuals and throw them in prison to keep the doctrine of
society in place, do they not? They fear the intellect and do not use it but
seek to subordinate it to the lower social level by repression and fear.
This alone makes them immoral according the the MOQ.
Whether we like it or not, the "harsh laws of the jungle" are always with us
no matter how civilized and advanced we become. The four levels and their
individual moral structures are able to contain each other without
contradiction, even though the biological level is seemingly opposed to the
inorganic, the social to the biological and the intellect to the social.
We seek the known and shun the unknown because of fear. You say "fear ...
causes us to value and cling to society" ... remember the MOQ states that A
does not cause B, but rather B values pre-condition A. So, society values
preconditioned fear. Fear of what? Fear of being murdered in the street,
fear of being robbed, burglarized, fear of the discontinuance of the
continuity that is our life by the unknown suddenly intruding. In a way
these are all known fears and so I agree with you to an extent, but at the
same time these are not predictable occurrences as the rules that society
offers to us are. There is an instristic unknown quality to random
(arbitrary?) acts of violence that we fear, is there not?
Best wishes,
glove
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