Re: MD The nature of natural law

From: Horse (horse@wasted.demon.nl)
Date: Tue Jun 01 1999 - 00:56:31 BST


Hi There

On 31 May 99, at 9:48, Bob Wallace wrote:
> > Bob, have you ever bothered to read Zen or Lila all the way
> > through or have you just skimmed the odd couple of pages here
> > and there.
> Bob replies:
> Something I noticed years ago in debating people someone always
> says, "Did you even read the book? If you did you sure didn't
> understand it!" I was waiting for such a comment...I award you the
> prize.

So you've had the same problem elsewhere then? Do you see a
pattern emerging or is just that everyone else is wrong except you.

On 31 May 99, at 9:48, Bob Wallace wrote:
> ' My incredible ignorance and prejudice?
> I assume you mean against blacks...I've had jobs where most the people
> were black. You'll never find one who ever said I showed the slightest
> prejudice. I live in a mixed neighborhood...you'll never find one who'll
> say I've showed the slightest prejudice. Tsk, tsk, you're showing the
> Romantic understanding, not the Classic.

If I'd thought you a racist I would have said so. The ignorance I
referred to is your lack of understanding of Pirsigs idea's and your
prejudice is obvious from the arguments you provide.

On 31 May 99, at 9:48, Bob Wallace wrote:
> One cannot attack people's character for what they have produced
> in the 'hard sciences.' One can attack character for what they
> create in the'soft sciences.' Because their character influences
> their beliefs. Marx was a vile human being who produced a vile
> philosophy. This is what is meant by the ancient sayings, 'Wolves
> in sheep's clothing,' 'false prophets,' and 'By their fruits you shall
> now them."Marxism, Socialism, whatever, are indeed intellectual
> theories but can take effect only through biologicial force--the State.

The above illustrates the main point I have been making regarding
your failure to understand Lila and what it presents and goes to the
core of your lack of understanding of the MOQ.

On 31 May 99, at 9:48, Bob Wallace wrote:
> >Why not try reading Lila again Bob. This time with an open mind
> >and without the idea of justifying your strange and warped notions.
> >
> Bob replies:
> You have made my day. Thank you.

No problem. Now you can read the book (again?).

As I don't see this argument going anywhere this is the last post I'll
be doing for this subject.

Horse

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