Drose and squad,
Drose writes:
This sounds suspiciously like a retelling of the creation myth. Good is
the driving force resulting in sentient humanity who then screw up the
works. Bad is whatever diverges from "good." Leaving out the
anthropomorphism cluttering Genesis, are we separated from Good?
Clark writes:
This is a retelling of the creation myth couched in different terms. The
MoQ is just as much a creation myth as the Bible except that the MoQ,
beyond the initial beginning, dispenses with belief and constructs a
rational basis for the universe. Our species has the ability to separate
from Good because our perceived Good is, in many cases, at odds with the
Good of the universe. The question is, in the case of disagreement, which
Good takes precedence.
Drose writes:
Never. If you believe that evolution favors a rock over a human, then
why evolve a human at all?
Clark writes:
Your question implies that there is some sentient force directing
evolution. Not so. The evolution of the rock and the evolution of humans is
equally favored. The rock is just as important as a human in terms of
evolution.
Drose writes:
The MOQ is humancentric, Ken, because man is the measure. That statement
> > will hold true, I think, until we encounter another sentient species.
> > Then we can say sentience is the measure. The MOQ may well describe the
> > inorganic, biologic and social levels after we are gone, but the
> > intellectual level is reserved to sentient beings
Clark writes:
Believing that the MoQ is humancentric is the reason that you are unable
to reconcile the MoQ with humanity. Man is not the measure any more than
the amoeba or any inorganic molecule is. Man is the result of Quality
operating in the universe just as is the amoeba or the molecule. The fact
that evolution developed to the level of sentience in no way changes the
thrust of evolution in the universe any more than the evolution of life
changed the thrust of inorganic evolution. We cannot say for sure that the
intellectual level is reserved to sentient (human) beings because we do not
know where evolution is taking us. We may be joined by other biological
species in due course. We are just the first.
Pirsig took great pains to show us that the MoQ operated fairly and
impartially right from the Big Bang until now and on into the future. Why
do we keep trying to make it otherwise? Ken
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