Re: MD traditions of mysticism

From: Mari (mld2001@adelphia.net)
Date: Sat Nov 23 2002 - 13:10:07 GMT

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    DMB says:
    > Let me ask you, Sam, have you ever had a mystical experience? I'm not
    asking
    > if you've ever been moved to tears or enjoyed an epiphany. I mean a
    personal
    > event that ripped your head off. If so, you see what I mean about the
    > stagnant waters. 22Nov02/11:22pm

    Sam replies:
    And the answer to your final question is yes (did you expect otherwise?).
    But it's not that important. 23Nov02/04:20am

    Mari (me) asks Platt in an email if there has ever been any discussion ( in
    the MoQdg ) of near death or out of body experiece. 22Nov02/06:11am

    Platt replies via email 22Nov02/12:02pm
    Hi Mari:

    I don't recall anyone talking about near death or out of body
    experiences, at least at any length. So I think it would be a great
    subject to introduce, perhaps relating it to Pirsig's discussion of peyote
    and "vision quests" in Chapter 3 of Lila.

    Mari says:
    So what exactly IS "mystical experience"?
    peyote? near death experience? out of body experience? prayer? meditation?
    other? God?
    Has anyone in this discussion group had one or more "mystical experience"?
    What were/are the consequences of the "ME"
    Did Pirsig or Phaedrus have the peyote experience in Lila?
    Is it possible to write/talk (with authority) about "ME" if one has never
    had one?

    i think this is enough splashing around for my first leap into the
    discussion pool.

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