From: john williams (ducati900@bigpond.com)
Date: Sun Jan 12 2003 - 22:06:15 GMT
Platt said:
But I'm puzzled by your statement
> that ends with "keeping their own family safe." I would hope my
> community would "pin you to the wall" if you threatened me and my
> family. Your personal freedom doesn't mean that you are free to
> endanger someone in your community.
Sorry, I didn't explain in enough detail , You don't have to threaten
anothers family. To stick with the holocaust theme that has appeared in this
thread. Say I was a member of the German community in 1936 and I thought it
was wrong what was being said and done about jews and I mentioned it down
the pub to a couple of my mates. I have no doubt that one of my mates would
have put me in to the authorities as a sympithiser, for two reasons, one
because they agree with the government that the jews are the problem and two
to get themselves brownie points with the local officials. So you see I
don't have to threaten anyone.
Now move to Australian society in 2003 (and America I would say looks the
same from here) the members of my community would behave the same way today,
I have no doubt about it. I don't no what circles you move in, but the
working class people I'm living with jump on every racist, bigotted,
Zenophobic band wagon thats going past and I can have a fight any day of the
week I like to mention that we should try to understand better or be more
tolerant.
John from The Rock
----- Original Message -----
From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: MD No to absolutism
> Hi John W:
>
> > Self interest is a greater motivator, If it is seen that being good is
the
> > best option then thats how the majority will go. I have no doubt that my
> > community would pin me to the wall if it would keep their own family
safe.
> > Personal freedom will be the first thing to go in our brave new world.
>
> I agree that self-interest is a great motivator. It's the engine behind
> progress in the human condition. >
> Platt
>
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