From: Ian Glendinning (ian@psybertron.org)
Date: Sat Aug 28 2004 - 10:23:34 BST
The Edge is an organisation I've linked to many times, and it has some
serious credentials behind its materials.
(I've posted links to its "annual question" on here a couple of times, and
have a permanent link of my own.)
One word of warning ...
The Edge is mainly populated by "best-selling popular science" authors who
share a common publicist in John Brockman, so it's not "value-free", lest
any of us doubted it. Still good though.
Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Morey" <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: MD The future of the MOQ
> nice!!!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ml" <mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com>
> To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: MD The future of the MOQ
>
>
> > 'morning David,
> >
> > You certainly got the focus
> > tuned to 'extra sharp' on that one.
> > I fear there is too much true in
> > your sentence about much of our
> > 'scientific culture' and education
> > systems. Political agendas are
> > almost completely static...
> >
> > There is an interesting group you
> > might look at for restoring the faith
> > in a possibly bright future for
> > science. There are some fairly
> > free thoughts floating around.
> >
> > http://www.edge.org/
> >
> > I have found some of the play of
> > ideas fascinating. Let me know
> > what you think.
> >
> > thanks--mel
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Morey" <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
> > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: MD The future of the MOQ
> >
> >
> > > One key thing seems to be that
> > > science is very good at modelling SQ
> > > but more often these days it is coming
> > > up against DQ.
> > >
> > > DM
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "ml" <mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com>
> > > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 11:40 PM
> > > Subject: Re: MD The future of the MOQ
> > >
> > >
> > > > MoQ should have an intellectual future
> > > > or maybe a post-intellectual future.
> > > > To get there we may need to concentrate
> > > > on what level is most important to explore
> > > > and how to frame the future.
> > > >
> > > > We speak an SOM structured language
> > > > which implicitly reduces our thinking, if
> > > > not always our discussion to something
> > > > SOM-ish.
> > > >
> > > > Counting up the subject matter in this
> > > > discussion, it will be overwhelmingly
> > > > about social matter. It is what is
> > > > important to individuals at times, but
> > > > I would question whether the social
> > > > is our best focus for the long view.
> > > >
> > > > To my perception only a few of the
> > > > things written, (including my own)
> > > > have had the ring of MoQ novelty or
> > > > felt like it extended the MoQ itself.
> > > >
> > > > That might be why RMP has written
> > > > so many books so quickly ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Tough going to get along the road...
> > > >
> > > > thanks--mel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "David Morey" <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:23 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: MD The future of the MOQ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all
> > > > >
> > > > > I ask, has the MOQ got an intellectual future?
> > > > >
> > > > > I see some possible trends that approach the MOQ:
> > > > > Wilber & self-help & new-age holism, Roy Bhaskar's
> > > > > stratified being & philosophy of freedom, certain ideas
> > > > > in the new physics that are anti-determinist
> > > > > & anti-reductionist, the anti-essentialism
> > > > > of post-modernism, other trends & possibilities.
> > > > > The seeking of something after the death of god.
> > > > > Charles Taylor's 'Sources of the Self' and other
> > > > > calls to re-examine the sources of values.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do others see/hope for?
> > > > >
> > > > > regards
> > > > > David M
> > > > >
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