Re: MD The individual in the MOQ

From: Arlo Bensinger (ajb102@psu.edu)
Date: Mon Aug 30 2004 - 22:46:41 BST

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    Greetings Ham,

    > Man -- you and I individually, not as a group species -- is
    >the primary "dynamic agent" in the realization of Value through the exercise
    >of personal freedom.

    Questions:

    Would a hypothetical "feral human" (raised by wolves, if you will)
    experience this Value in any way compatible or associative with an
    "individual" who partakes in a given social milieu?

    Do you feel different cultures extend different affordances to action (not
    just through prohibitive laws and socially-valued activity, but also by
    making certain symbolic relations salient? For example, a culture that has
    several words for "snow" versus one, a culture that recognizes the number
    "zero" versus one that does not.

    > This core idea of Essentialism is missing in Pirsig's
    >MOQ, and extending Quality to absoluteness does not work as a teleology.
    >Since man is the subject of all experience, and cognizance of reality is
    >proprietary to the individual

    Would the individual be cognizant of reality in the absence of
    socially-constructed semiotic systems, or is it that partaking in
    socially-constructed semiotic systems allows the individual to create an
    internal, symbolic representation of "reality"?

    Which is pretty much a restatement of my first question.

    >, this must be the starting point of any
    >philosophy.
    >
    >Hence, I must take issue with the MOQer's insistence in putting Quality
    >first. Neither Quality nor Value can exist without individual sensibility,
    >and nothing exists without a Creator.

    Can individual sensibility exist with a social semiotic to define it?

    Arlo

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