From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Sep 05 2004 - 22:00:23 BST
> No, it takes two biological individuals for you to "be here". It takes a
> shared social semiotic for you (as a biological individual) to achieve
> "intelligence".
In case you missed it, Pirsig said the social level is restricted to human beings
and does not include any old "biological individuals" such as a couple of
sheep. Humans are born into language. It's a given at the social level, like air
at the biological level and atoms at the inorganic.
> But when
> > it comes to responding to DQ, only you, as an individual, are capable.
> > Societies don't respond. Read again the story of the brujo.
> No one denies the activity of biological individuals. It is a given.
How do sheep respond to Dynamic Quality? What have they created lately?
> > No one suggests the intellectual level should be renamed the
> > "collective."
>
> > But the social level could be renamed the "collective level" and the
> > intellectual the "individual level" to emphasize the difference and to
> > show the dynamic and thus moral superiority of the individual over the
> > collective.
>
> If anything, perhaps the biological level should be renamed the
> "individual" since it discusses biological entities responding to DQ
> without a social semiotic, whether amoebas or individuals devoid of a
> social semiotic. The result is the same, an endless stream of DQ and
> nothing else.
Since when does the biological level discuss anything? You can't be
serious.
Platt
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