Re: MD MOQ and The Ideal Society.

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Mon Sep 06 2004 - 21:20:46 BST

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    Err! No, that's not logical if you insert you get -a subset resists a
    subset, & DQ brings birth
    of the new & we can play a part in its embrace
    & not join the resistance, pretty straight forward
    I think. We and I are perfectly translatable into MOQ
    as long as you do not turn them into substances,
    they are just shorthand for the evolving patterns of
    human form, as they are evolving they contain SQ & DQ.
    If they are not evolving they are just SQ -nothing complicated
    there.

    DM

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Wim Nusselder" <wim.nusselder@antenna.nl>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 7:16 AM
    Subject: Re: MD MOQ and The Ideal Society.

    > Dear David M.,
    >
    > You wrote 28 Aug 2004 13:51:10 +0100:
    > 'At this moment I think that what is at issue are our values, and whether
    we
    > can start to address values that embrace the best potential we can aim for
    > on this planet, to see that we can aim higher than we do currently, and
    that
    > the sq that resists us can melt away and this can be achieved by just
    > walking away from this damaging SQ. We need to help DQ in creating new and
    > better possibilities. We need to change
    > our values, thinking, & life choices. It is not easy.'
    >
    > I replied 3 Sep 2004 06:32:16 +0200:
    > 'What is this "we" (and what you call "I") that is resisted by sq and that
    > can/should help DQ?? Sq and DQ make up everything according to the MoQ.
    > Where is this "we"/"I"' to be found?'
    >
    > You replied 4 Sep 2004 10:51:10 +0100:
    > 'Easy-"we & I" are the individual & common/collective human & cultural
    > subsets of all SQ/DQ'
    >
    > So a whole resists a subset and a subset needs to help a whole??
    > To me "sq resisting us" and "us helping DQ" suggested that "sq", "us"and
    > "DQ" are each subsets of a bigger whole ("Quality") that don't overlap.
    The
    > MoQ doesn't allow a third subset of "Quality" that doesn't overlap with
    > either "sq" or "DQ", however. What you wrote 28 August seems a SOM in
    > disguise: you first distinguish "Quality" in subjective and objective
    > Quality (the subjective Quality being "we" or "I") and only then do you
    > distinguish objective Quality in "sq" and "DQ": two types of what you call
    > 'our values'. A 'value' to which you can add 'our'/'my' or 'their' is not
    > the type of value/Quality that figures in the MoQ.
    >
    > With friendly greetings,
    >
    > Wim
    >
    >
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