Re: MD A bit of reasoning

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sun Sep 12 2004 - 14:29:27 BST

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    Scott

    You are wanting it both ways, you can't
    agree that Pirsig has a very restricted use
    for the word intellect and complain that you
    want to talk about lots of interesting stuff in
    what Pirsig calls pre-intellectual.
    The substance of the debate is what this
    pre-intellectual contains whatever we call it.
    Let's discuss this interesting stuff, the powers of DQ
    prior to the more human and social type forms that
    Pirsig calls intellectual. I think a more confident MOQ
    could use your use of the word, but I think I understand
    Pirsig's motives in terms of rhetoric. It also has an
    element of substance with respect to it being difficult
    to start talking about the capable powers that clearly
    exist prior to the 4th level, no matter what we call it.

    DM

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Scott Roberts" <jse885@earthlink.net>
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    Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 2:44 AM
    Subject: Re: MD A bit of reasoning

    > David M,
    >
    > >
    > > Happy to do that, I think Pirsig's use of intellect is simply not so
    > > general & his more universal term DQ clearly shows capacities that
    > > are intelligent, how else can it achieve the creation of the levels.
    >
    > Trouble is, Pirsig's use is too simple. He denies anything intellect-like
    > to DQ, expressly calling it "pre-intellectual", so it is not a question of
    > "just not getting around to" philosophy of mind in Lila, but not allowing
    > for any, as I explain in my response to DMB.
    >
    > - Scott
    >
    >
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