From: Ian Glendinning (ian@psybertron.org)
Date: Sat Oct 09 2004 - 10:31:32 BST
Thanks Mel,
Henry came back to me on the same point from his site. I knew I'd seen this
a reference somewhere, but couldn'tremember what or where.
Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: "ml" <mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: MD Colfax Avenue ?
> Hello Ian...
>
>
>
> Ian:
>
>
> > A question for you US cultural hisorians ...
> >
> > When John mentions "Twenty-six-forty-nine Colfax Avenue, 8 years before"
> to
> > Bob and Sylvia, whilst they're all basking in the post-wine-and-fish
inner
> > glow at the DeWeese's and Sylvia says let's not talk about it, but John
> > makes a knowing remark to Bob about the quality of the evening with
> friends
> > ...
> >
> > Do we know specifically which Colfax Avenue, which previous friends'
party
> > they're referring to ?
> > Is it an allusion, or direct reference, to Jack Kerouac's night in
Denver
> in
> > On The Road ?
> > Anyone know the significance ?
>
> mel:
>
> Found this, here:
>
> http://www.zmmquality.org/gallery/album03
>
> 2649 South Colfax Ave, Minneapolis
> John Sutherland and his wife Sylvia, are one of the four main characters
in
> ZMM. "Later John mumbles something a few times, looks up and announces,
> "This does it-this just does the whole thing for us . . . Now we can go
back
> for another eight years on Twenty-six-forty-nine Colfax Avenue." Sylvia
says
> mournfully, "Let's not talk about that."
> Minneapolis MN dusk shrouds the quiet well maintained home at 2649 South
> Colfax Ave. From the contextual evidence contained in ZMM we may deduce
that
> John's statement about Colfax Avenue surely must be about his home in
> Minneapolis MN, where sure enough www.mapquest.com shows it as a N-S
street,
> just west of the downtown area. In a recent letter Pirsig said of this
> photograph. "This could be John's house. [They] Moved to the country in
late
> '70's." ZMM author Robert Pirsig went to Elementary School about ten
blocks
> North of Here. The children Pirsig went to school with would have come
from
> this neighborhood. As a child, he may have walked through this area of
town.
>
>
>
> There is a Colorado street Colfax, the longest
> named street in America (supposedly, but any
> Chamber of Commerce looks for some reason
> to be unique.) , part of it runs through Denver,
> part is West in Jefferson County and the rest
> East in Arapahoe and Adams Counties.
>
> Kerouac spent much longer than his literary night in
> Denver and may have 'got up to some considerable
> shenanigans' as the old expression goes.
>
> But this is an aside...
>
> thanks--mel
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