RE: MD On Faith

From: Platt Holden (
Date: Sat Oct 09 2004 - 13:59:36 BST

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    > platt:
    > As Godel showed, if religion requires belief in unprovable truth,
    > math is the only religion that can prove it's a religion.
    > msh says:
    > I seriously doubt that Godel said anything as silly as this, unless
    > he was going for laughs at some cocktail party. If belief in
    > unprovable truth is all that's required for a system of thought to be a
    > religion then, sure, science is a religion, math is a religion, and the MOQ
    > is a religion. But, as we all know, religion requires much more than a
    > belief in unprovable truth; it requires a belief in God.

    As we all know? Tell that to the folks at Merriam-Webster who define
    religion as:

    " 4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and

    That's the meaning I'm using in comparing the long list of science's
    unprovable assumptions with religion.

    And yes, in that sense, the MOQ is a religion because it depends on
    unprovable belief (faith) in a mystical something called Quality which
    "cannot be defined." (Lila, 5)


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