From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Tue Oct 12 2004 - 01:42:52 BST
Hi Chuck, All:
> Platt:
>
> "As Scott as pointed out several times, orthodox theology has evolved over
> the years in light of new knowledge. But, it's faith in a spiritual
> presence hasn't changed from the beginning. Similarly, science has evolved
> in the light of new knowledge. But it's faith in naturalism hasn't changed
> from the beginning. It will not allow an unmeasurable creative power, like
> DQ, into it's explanations."
>
> Chuck responds:
>
> Platt, I know you're fond of dictionary definitions:
>
> or·tho·dox ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ôrth-dks)
> adj.
>
> 1. Adhering to the accepted or traditional and established faith,
> especially in religion.
>
> 2. Adhering to the Christian faith as expressed in the early Christian
> ecumenical creeds.
>
> Orthodox
>
> 3. Of or relating to any of the churches or rites of the Eastern Orthodox
> Church.
>
> 4. Of or relating to Orthodox Judaism.
>
> 5. Adhering to what is commonly accepted, customary, or traditional: an
> orthodox view of world affairs.
>
> n.
>
> Is it possible for "orthodox theology" to evolve beyond being "orthodox?"
> I mean, if it evolves, correct me if I'm wrong, it's no longer "orthodox,"
> right?
Yes, you're quite right. "Traditonal and established faith" as in
definition 1. doesn't evolve in religion nor in science. I was taking a
broader view and should have avoided using "orthodox." Thanks for
correcting my error.
The whole point of being orthodox is that it does not evolve! Once
> it evolves, it becomes something else! That's why those people hang
> together, they don't want to evolve. They want nothing to do with the
> Dynamic!
By "those people" I assume you are referring to orthodox (fundamentalist)
religious sects. As you know, there are many believers in a spiritual
being who don't belong in that category. It's a mistake to paint all such
believers as crazy kooks as it is to paint all scientists as mad.
> That is my problem with them! They are intrinsically in-group/out-group!
> They shun science! They're all Indian ink wells and quills and no pencils!
> Given the opportunity, they would bite the erasers off of science's
> pencils!!!
>
> Is it me?
Your talking about a relatively few nuts among believers. I feel the same
way as you about a few nuts among nonbelievers who would like to bring
about a Utopian world based on their idea of what's good for everybody,
and trying to make it happen at the point of a gun. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot
and Kim Chong-il come to mind.
Best,
Platt
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