Re: MD A bit of reasoning

From: Chuck Roghair (ctr@pacificpartssales.com)
Date: Wed Oct 13 2004 - 21:54:13 BST

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    David:

    SQ is the vision of expectation, but DQ is elusive and difficult to see
    except as snatched glimpses at the periphery of common experience.

    SQ is readily available, while DQ is fleeting. SQ is the Status Quo.
    DQ is what's happening at the cusp of the status quo.

    SQ lumbers, DQ is constant flux.

    SQ is history and future. DQ is the present moment, the right here,
    right now. DQ is REALITY.

    SQ strikes me as what DQ leaves behind.

    I think I agree with you David. I think.

    Best, C.

    On Oct 13, 2004, at 11:50 AM, David Morey wrote:

    > Hi folks
    >
    > I still like to bang on about my view that
    > SQ is the withdrawal of DQ. Does anyone
    > else get this? DQ is full of limitless possibilities.
    > If it expresses one possibility and withdraws we
    > are left with only repeats. This is SQ. Any other takers
    > for my humble idea? It links very nicely with god as the withdrawn
    > one in some religious writings.
    >
    > regards
    > DM
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Scott Roberts" <jse885@earthlink.net>
    > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:33 PM
    > Subject: Re: MD A bit of reasoning
    >
    >
    >> Joe,
    >>
    >>> [joe] it is hard for me to discard a mystical experience of DQ!
    >>
    >> No reason to, as far as I can see. Human intellect is different from
    >> Intellect, and mystical experience can be seen as a momentary
    >> breakthrough
    >> of Intellect.
    >>
    >> Do the self
    >>> and awareness share the same definition? To say a couple of things
    >>> about
    >> DQ
    >>> like 'creativity' and 'drives evolution' acknowledges a mystical
    >>> sense.
    >> What
    >>> are its limits?
    >>
    >> Since DQ sets limits (which are SQ) it is unlimited.
    >>
    >>> IMO morality is not merely the logic of awareness. Morality
    >>> is the response of awareness to the evolution of levels. How can I
    >>> avoid
    >> SOM
    >>> if I divide self and awareness?
    >>
    >> Why divide them? To distinguish is not to divide. SOM makes the
    >> division
    >> real, but in the MOQ (and what I am aiming at), awareness creates the
    >> self
    >> and what it is aware of in the act of awareness.
    >>
    >> IMO awareness is dynamic only in relation to
    >>> its own existence. IMO my focus, awareness, is extremely limited. I
    >>> want
    >> to
    >>> experience the fullness of DQ!
    >>
    >> "You" cannot experience the fullness of DQ, if I understand what
    >> mystics
    >> are saying. The fullness of DQ creates/experiences many "you's" by
    >> setting
    >> limits. (IMO, of course.)
    >>
    >> - Scott
    >>
    >>
    >>
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