From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sat Oct 16 2004 - 12:22:23 BST
Hi all
I agree this is right, but how?
Well I like the idea that it withdraws.
But it restrains itself, it chooses.
It repeats, it does the Same again,
it repeats, it gifts us patterns.
Exactly how? Is it something we experience?
DM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Roghair" <ctr@pacificpartssales.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:30 PM
Subject: RE: MD A bit of reasoning
> Scott:
>
> That sounds good, but how does DQ limit itself?
>
> Best,
>
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk [mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]
> On Behalf Of Scott Roberts
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 8:26 AM
> To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> Subject: Re: MD A bit of reasoning
>
> David M,
>
> I agree, though one can also put it in terms of "limitation". By limiting
> itself DQ creates SQ, but such limitation does not diminish DQ in the
> slightest -- only someone hung up on some particular SQ has a limited
> appreciation of DQ, so the individual may be said to have withdrawn.
>
> Merrell-Wolff, by the way, says that his mystical experience taught him
> that the more ponderable a thing is, the less Real it is, which is
> basically expressing this same idea.
>
> - Scott
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: David Morey <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
> > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> > Date: 10/13/2004 2:59:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: MD A bit of reasoning
> >
> > Hi folks
> >
> > I still like to bang on about my view that
> > SQ is the withdrawal of DQ. Does anyone
> > else get this? DQ is full of limitless possibilities.
> > If it expresses one possibility and withdraws we
> > are left with only repeats. This is SQ. Any other takers
> > for my humble idea? It links very nicely with god as the withdrawn
> > one in some religious writings.
> >
> > regards
> > DM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Roberts" <jse885@earthlink.net>
> > To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: MD A bit of reasoning
> >
> >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > > [joe] it is hard for me to discard a mystical experience of DQ!
> > >
> > > No reason to, as far as I can see. Human intellect is different from
> > > Intellect, and mystical experience can be seen as a momentary
> breakthrough
> > > of Intellect.
> > >
> > > Do the self
> > > > and awareness share the same definition? To say a couple of things
> about
> > > DQ
> > > > like 'creativity' and 'drives evolution' acknowledges a mystical
> sense.
> > > What
> > > > are its limits?
> > >
> > > Since DQ sets limits (which are SQ) it is unlimited.
> > >
> > > > IMO morality is not merely the logic of awareness. Morality
> > > > is the response of awareness to the evolution of levels. How can I
> avoid
> > > SOM
> > > > if I divide self and awareness?
> > >
> > > Why divide them? To distinguish is not to divide. SOM makes the
division
> > > real, but in the MOQ (and what I am aiming at), awareness creates the
> self
> > > and what it is aware of in the act of awareness.
> > >
> > > IMO awareness is dynamic only in relation to
> > > > its own existence. IMO my focus, awareness, is extremely limited. I
> want
> > > to
> > > > experience the fullness of DQ!
> > >
> > > "You" cannot experience the fullness of DQ, if I understand what
mystics
> > > are saying. The fullness of DQ creates/experiences many "you's" by
> setting
> > > limits. (IMO, of course.)
> > >
> > > - Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
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