From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Sat Nov 06 2004 - 01:30:22 GMT
David, Sam, all...
On 5 Nov 2004 at 21:05, Sam Norton wrote:
Don't know about attacked, my feeling was exasperation more than
anything else. The particular quote that got my goat was:
"While Eastern mysticism has its fair share of unjustified belief, it
undoubtedly represents humankind's best attempt at fashioning a
spiritual science. The methods of introspection one finds in
Buddhism, for instance, have no genuine equivalents in the West. And
the suggestion that they do is born of a desperate attempt on the
part of Westerners to make all religious traditions seem equally
wise. They simply aren't."
I just don't think that's a defensible point of view - I can't see a
better way of describing it than as a prejudice, ie an opinion formed
without a full acquaintance with the facts of the matter. Not
uncommon, but not worth celebrating either.
msh says:
I agree with Sam here. This guy's so pumped full of Certainty he's
just about tipping over. There are just tons of "methods of
introspection" in Western culture: Prayer, fasting, listening to
music, viewing art, CREATING art of any kind, lifting weights and
raking leaves, for heaven's sake. American Indian religion alone can
hold its own with anything rooted in the East when it comes to
methods of introspection, as anyone who's read LILA already
understands.
Besides this, I would think those of you who consider yourselves
Buddhists would be slightly annoyed by the condescending tone of the
opening sentence quoted above.
Doncha think?
msh
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Morey" <us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: MD terror & religion
> Hi Sam
>
> Interesting, do you feel attacked in this interview?
> Can you expand upon what is misconceived by the author?
> Personally I put a fallible seeking of truth before religion,
> and fear the potential violence of those who claim to 'know'
> although at this time this seeking places me outside of the
> secular camp and its built-in incapacity to face its own
> inadequacies.
>
> DM
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