From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sat Nov 06 2004 - 13:50:34 GMT
Roy Bharkar suggests that the end of freedom and flourishing
is only possible when enlightenment (eastern/inner/overcoming egoism)
is joined with enlightenment (western/outer/overcoming repression).
DM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Roberts" <jse885@earthlink.net>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: MD Moral values in the election and in the Bible
> Rick,
>
> I agree with Platt on this. The Caesar quote says nothing about
> encouraging
> his followers to impose taxes, just to pay them, not to impose law but to
> obey the law, and not mix up God's things with Caesar's. To give out of
> the
> goodness of one's heart is one thing, to take from the rich to give to the
> poor is another. It is one own's wealth that one is to give away, not
> someone else's.
>
> Basically, I think Jesus would be apolitical. Work on oneself, and help
> your neighbor (who is anyone you run across that needs help), rather than
> try to fix things through politics, as in "And why beholdest thou the mote
> that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine
> own eye?" (Luke 6:41)
>
> - Scott
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Valence <valence10@hotmail.com>
>> To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
>> Date: 11/5/2004 3:41:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: MD Moral values in the election and in the Bible
>>
>> PLATT
>> > I can find nothing in the New Testament to support your belief that
> Jesus
>> > would have employed Pontius Pilot's police or the Roman military to
>> > enforce taxes levied on the general populace as required by socialism.
>>
>> R
>> You're just not looking hard enough Platt...
>>
>> Then the Pharisees went and took counsel how to entangle Him in his talk.
>> And they sent their disciples to Him, along with the Herodians, saying,
>> "Teacher, we know that You are true, and teach the way of God truthfully,
>> and care for no man; for You do not regard the position of men. Tell us,
>> then, what You think. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?" But
>> Jesus, aware of their malice, said, "Why put Me to the test, you
> hypocrites?
>> Show Me the money for the tax." And they brought Him a coin. And Jesus
> said
>> to them, "Whose likeness and inscription is this?" They said, "Caesar's."
>> Then He said to them, "Render therefore to Caesar the things that are
>> Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." When they heard it, they
>> marveled; and they left Him and went away.
>> ---Matthew 22:15-22
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