From: Dan Glover (daneglover@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 24 2003 - 23:16:25 GMT
>From: "Willy" <willy@rodo.nl>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
>Subject: RE: MD Pirsig an artist - MoQ & love
>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:40:46 +0100
>
>Dan:
>
>Dain said:
> >Lila, Bantam paperback, page 330 -- "If you really love people they'll
>kill
> >you for it. You have to hate them and then *pretend* you love them."
>
>True, he mentions love. But he doesn't discuss it as part of MoQ, he
>doesn't compare love to anything but its opposite (hate) and is
>therefore not truelly discussing it. Now let's not define 'discussing
>something' but let's look at the role love plays in the MoQ. The piece
>you quoted is not part of the philosophical pondering but part of the
>story about his (in)sanity. Simply because it contains the word love
>does not mean it contributes to *this* discussion.
Your question was: "Does Pirsig not ever mention love?" Yes he does. Let's
leave it at that since you seem to feel some parts of Lila are not worthy of
discussion.
>
>
> >Can a person be an artist and not love their art?
>I will answer with another question. Can you be considered an artist by
>others, but not by yourself?
Of course. In fact it's been my experience many artists do not consider
themselves artists at all. But they all love what they do.
>I sure believe so (eg 200 years after your
>death). If you don't consider yourself as an artist then you won't
>consider what you do (or create) as art. You will not have to love it.
I hate to keep answering your questions with questions, but why on earth
would you create something you don't love?
>
> >In my opinion, like Dynamic Quality, love cannot be defined, so there
>is
> >little use in analyzing it. Love just is.
>Little use in analyzing it? Might just as well throw away RMPs books
>then.
Have you ever been in love? I have, but I cannot tell you what love is. Oh
sure, I could burst into song or spout poetic but all that's doing is
sharing with others what love is like, not what love is. Why should RMP be
expected to know? I don't think that's any reason to throw out his books.
Dan
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