From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Sun Nov 21 2004 - 04:13:41 GMT
Hi all,
From a while back... so many posts, so little time...
On 6 Nov 2004 at 8:31, Platt Holden wrote:
msh wrote:
> Modern Socialism is a reaction to the obvious inequities . . .
platt:
What's immoral about "inequities?"
msh says:
Inequities that result in one's inability to satisfy basic biological
needs seriously impede and sometimes destroy one's opportunity for
freedom. If such inequities are large enough between a vast majority
and small minority within a social system, the social system is in
danger of being destroyed if it does not either enforce the
inequities with violence, or change in response to DQ to ameliorate
the inequities. Since the violent solution is a rejection of the DQ
solution, it is immoral; and therefore allowing inequities which may
be ameliorated through DQ-inspired social action is also immoral.
msh continued:
>. . . caused by a
> socio-economic system whose main premise seems to be: "It's
> perfectly ok (moral) for one person to own everything."
platt:
The main premise is "It's OK for a person to keep what he has
rightfully earned in a free market."
msh says:
I disagree. This is the premise that is claimed, but a little
reflection on the workings of the so-called "free market" reveals
that it is a game who's rules are written by the winners, for the
benefit of the winners. Sort of like a chess tournament wherein
every time you win a game, you get to start the next game with an
extra pawn taken from your opponent. In such a system it's quite
possible for one person, playing by the rules, to end up with
everything.
msh continued:
> Progressive taxation is one
> tool for undoing an injustice.
platt:
What's the injustice?
msh says:
See above...
msh continued:
My guess is... Set your system up right in the first place, maybe
incorporating some of the Christian ideas quoted here and ideas from
ParEcon (Participatory Economics), as well as John Rawls' Theory of
Justice, and you'll be able to nip potential injustices in the bud.
As usual, any thoughtful comments will be appreciated...
Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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