From: Steve Peterson (speterson@fast.net)
Date: Sun Jan 26 2003 - 15:22:11 GMT
> John, Platt and everyone with feet:
>
> Platt said:
> I have no problem with your chosen worldview. Using government
> jackboots to impose that view on others is the problem.
>
> John said:
> Where did you ever get that idea? Collective improvement does not
> require jackbooting of any kind, the type of things I look for are
> Intellectual DQ solutions to the problems we all have in common, they're
> already happening, I reckon we should expand these occurrence and that we
> could come up with a template that would give us some thing to work with.
>
> John said:
> I thought your jackboot metaphor was interesting because I think of anyone
> with strong rightwing views is only a short trip to the shoe shop from being
> a Fascist, only I wasn't going to let that out, I was going to keep it to
> myself.
>
> DMB says:
> Perhaps Platt doesn't know that in the Western world, big black boots,
> preferably Doc Martians, are part of the unoffical neo-Nazi uniform. So I
> think you're quite right, John. "Jackboots" are certainly associated with
> right-wingers. There's no doubt. Platt uses the phrase, I suspect, because
> he listens to G. Gordon Liddy, a fascists talk radio host who told his right
> wing listeners that the police were nothing but "jackbooted thugs" and
> instructed his fans to shoot them in the head should they ever dare to enter
> thier homes. This notion was widely circulated around the time of the
> Oaklahoma City Bombing by all kinds of right-wing extremists.
>
> Further, I agree with you about DQ people too. Pirsig's prime examples are
> Lincoln and Ghandi. Both of them did things to make millions more free. If
> that's not helpful, then nothing is.
>
> Say hello to the rock for me,
> DMB
Steve: So do we all agree then that "Using government
jackboots to impose [a] view on others is [a] problem"?
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