From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Thu Jan 06 2005 - 16:02:57 GMT
Hi Scott, Chin:
I appreciate very much your response to my inquiry regarding the nature of
mystic enlightenment. On that subject, I wonder what you gentlemen think
of the passage I quoted in today's post to Paul from Ken Wilber,
reproduced below:
(In the following, the Ultimate State of Consciousness was previously
defined by Wilber as "absolute reality.")
"So what does it mean that you can't enter the Ultimate State of
Consciousness? What does it mean that never, under any circumstances, at
any time, through any effort, can you enter the Ultimate State of
Consciousness? Only that the Ultimate State of Consciousness is already
fully and completely present. And that means the Ultimate State of
Consciousness is in no way different from your ordinary state of
consciousness or from and other state of consciousness that you might have
at this or any moment. 'Your ordinary mind, just that is the Tao,' says
Nansen. Whatever state you have now, regardless of what you think of it
and regardless of its nature is absolutely It. You therefore cannot enter
It because you have always been It from the very beginning.
"That the Ultimate State of Consciousness is not a state apart or in any
way different from the Present State of Consciousness is the point so many
people seem to miss. Hence, they misguidedly seek to engineer for
themselves a 'higher' state of consciousness, radically different from
their present state of awareness, wherein it is imagined that the Supreme
Identity can be realized. Some imagine that this particular and exclusive
'higher' state of consciousness is connected with specific brain-wave
patterns, such as predominant amounts of high amplitude alpha waves.
Others maintain that an individual's neurological system must undergo
several changes evolving as it were to the point where this 'higher' state
of consciousness and finally emerge. Some even believe that physiological
stress has to be removed through meditative techniques and then the
'higher' state will result. But all this chatter totally overlooks the
inescapable fact that any state of consciousness that can be entered, or
that emerges after various practices must have a beginning in time, and
this is not and could never be the times and eternal Ultimate State of
Consciousness."
Thanks in advance for whatever comments you care to make.
Regards,
Platt
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