Re: MD Understanding Quality in Society

From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Mon Jan 24 2005 - 07:11:00 GMT

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    Hi Wim,

    Thanks for responding. I'm not sure I understand your position here.
    You say an economy can be organized using the following five
    principles, which you further define below.

    1) Enforcement
    2) Natural order
    3) Force
    4) Dependence
    5) Convincement

    Can you describe an existing economic system, showing how these four
    principles come into play?

    More comments below....

    wim:
    Each of these principles can be seen as a way to make others work for
    you.

    msh says:
    Ok.

    wim:
    They can also be understood as BOTH ways to create more collective
    wealth and survival chances for a society as a whole AND ways to
    create a social elite that gets more than it needs.

    msh says:
    Ok.

    wim:
    The balance between these two effects determines whether it also
    creates an underclass that gets les than it needs.

    msh says:
    Ok, but this is where some examples of real economic systems would be
    helpful.

    wim:
    Combining them can help to create balance. Democratic government
    combines force and convincement. Calling something 'democratic'
    doesn't guarantee such balance however...

    msh says:
    Ok. Sure.

    wim:
    Anyway, we need all these principles in modern economies, even though
    we would like the role of 'convincement' to grow.

    msh says:
    Again, I'm not sure what you are saying, as it seems WAY too
    theoretical. Please provide an example of an economy, real or
    imaginary, that employs these five principles, describing each
    principle in action.

    Thanks,
    Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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