From: Mark (mjfstuff@tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Sun Jun 12 2005 - 03:33:26 BST
OK - intellectual discussions aside - and believe, you lot seem obsessed
with them to the point of the actual meaning of your word almost
entirely being obliterated by the own personal understanding of such
words (and no I am not an f-ing retard) - point is doesn't every person
understand words in respect to their own experience and as such - and
said meanings of such are completely dependant upon ones own
experience? Is that not central to what Pirsig is on about - quality is
entirely related to the OWN experience even when it comes down to
morals? It seems to me that most of the discussions on this mailing
list are based entirley on people who want to ratify there own
experience and therefore feel more normal/accepted and comfortable with
said experience. Has anyone got the courage to stand alone and just
"BE"? Or (?) are you all just similar (normal (within intellectual
scope)) paradigm/advantage seeking machines?
Anyway, anyway - (aside aside) - what I really want to know is this (and
it is important - if only to me) does anyone out there really experience
the substance emanating from reality/external objects - waves of
perception that Pirsig talks about throughout his book. Or as I suspect
none of you have actually found the harmonisation of the disperate
sections of the brain that /quality/ actually represents. You are all
still looking within the subset of experience that logic represents and
existing entirely at its bounds when you should be seeing that logical
structure (which is entirley huge) as a subsidery to your own experience
and not the entire whole.
/apology./
Of course words are words and not experience - it's all we have between
us, between our (quite poss.) totally different realities. So if any of
the above is offensive to your perceptions/intellect. then accept my
apology. No offence intended.
Still, respond - /Please.
/(be waiting)* Yours - MF.
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