From: Johannes Volmert (jvolmert@student.uni-kassel.de)
Date: Tue Jun 14 2005 - 21:41:47 BST
Hi Platt, Paul and Ham,
just to pose an inconvenient question: I do not know anything about Ayn
Rand, except that Alan Greenspan considered himself influenced by her
(him?), but do you really believe that Robert M.Pirsig instead of living
in the USA almost his whole life living on a sunny island, like for
instance the bahamas, from his very youth would have come to anything
like the MOQ?
Do you believe that any inventor during recent history would have gotten
to any technical invention whatsoever, if he had lived in a rural place
instead of living in heavily crowded places like New York, London,
Vienna, Berlin, Paris or Amsterdam?
Take in account all their social contacts, especially people of their
subject, possibilities of getting information and on the other hand
possibilties of living isolated inasmuch that they could keep out any
avoidable distraction.
Well, it is not about taking away anybodys claim to his/her
invention/discovering. It's more about seeing the soil on which their
findings grow.
Greetings, JoVo
PS.: Followed your exchange closely! ;-)
Platt Holden wrote:
>Hi Paul, Ham
>
>Paul responded to Ham's quotation of Ayn Rand:
>
>
>
>>I've answered Rand's asinine comments before. She should apply some
>>of her proprietary reason to see that language cannot possibly be private
>>and that the construction of skyscrapers, for example, is based on
>>structural engineering principles which are the result of hundreds of years
>>of development and communication through very public institutions.
>>
>>
>
>Do you not recognize that language, engineering principles and
>institutions were created by individuals? That somebody had to be first?
>
>Language, principles and public institutions did not just drop from the
>sky like rain. The MOQ tells us they were all created from responses by
>individuals to DQ -- from the response of a carbon molecule to the DQ
>force to the response of the Brujo to "a vague sense of betterness."
>
>It's the individual, stepping outside the current static level, whether
>the inorganic or social level, who drives evolution.
>
>To create the MOQ, Pirsig the individual, rose above static SOM intellect.
>
>No one else, least of all a public institution or a collective
>consciousness, can lay claim to the authorship of ZMM and Lila.
>
>Without doubt the static social "public" level is important. It supports
>like a base camp the inquirers of the high country. But, it's those
>individual explorers of the aesthetic continuum beyond the peaks who
>produce the new and better.
>
>If this be asinine, make the most of it. :-)
>
>Best,
>Platt
>
>
>
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