From: hampday@earthlink.net
Date: Mon Jul 25 2005 - 01:40:00 BST
Platt, MSH, Paul, Arlo, Ian, Robert, and All --
You have all denied my contention that Pirsig's Fourth Level Intellect is
recognized and accepted by MoQ followers as a "Collective Consciousness".
I think Robert Warlov's posting of 7/24 speaks for itself:
> I'd like to suggest that the 'intellectual level' is that which is
nessesary
> for individuals to group and stay together. That was once the function of
> 'The Church', or religion, which is now superceded by Science/Intellect,
but
> biological cells that receive and send information to and from other
cells
> are communicating and are therefore involved in intellectual activity.
>
> As to a 'collective conscienceness' that is the only conscienceness there
> is, because your mind is not yours, it's ours. Mind is one thing. Each
> culture shares the same mind, because it shares the same language and the
> same ideas. If you disagree, tell me with what you think if not with
words.
> Your body did not invent those words. You 'uploaded the program' from the
> culture. 'Your' mind and the program are the same thing. We all share
the
> same program.
>
> Robert Warlov
Now, of course, you can tell me that this is only one man's opinion, that
Robert has it all wrong, that Pirsig wouldn't accept such a defnition -- all
of which may be true.
But it won't convince me otherwise.
Thanks, Robert, for making my point so painfully clear.
Ham
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