MD Truth, conservatism & religion

From: Ant McWatt (antmcwatt@hotmail.co.uk)
Date: Fri Jul 29 2005 - 14:08:31 BST

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    Ian Glendinning stated July 29th:

    So Platt, Ant,

    So, Liberal or Conservative (or any colour you like) the common problem is
    clearly the theistic religion. QED.

    Ant McWatt comments:

    Good one, Ian!

    Platt Holden stated July 28th:

    >P.S. It’s strange to think that charlatanism and fraud thrives to the
    >detriment of the truth in two fields which often go hand-in-hand:
    >Fundamentalist "Christianity" and conservatism. Quite a coincidence –
    >maybe Platt can provide an explanation for why this is the case?

    For the same reason they thrive in liberal Catholicism and Judaism I'd
    say. :-)

    Ant McWatt comments:

    Platt, glad to see you’re still awake!

    I’ll have a crack at answering my own question though. Derren Brown – the
    hypnotist I mentioned previously who is interested in religious frauds has
    probably uncovered an important point to keep in mind, namely that many of
    our social and intellectual values are absorbed unconsciously from an early
    age (via parents and schooling) and when we are adults through the media.

    For example, in another TV program/me “Mind Control” originally broadcast in
    2001 by Channel 4, Brown played with the heads of two London advertising
    executives (Bill Hick’s favorite people – I love them as well – especially
    boiled…). This was done by him deciding a theme for the executives of an
    animal sanctuary he predicted the exact campaign that two advertising
    executives would produce for this theme. This was done by Brown and his
    team by placing certain pictures and phrases on shop windows, pedestrians
    wearing T-shirts, and even pub signs that the executives would see
    fleetingly on their route to the office. The executives were unconscious of
    the information provided by the pictures and phrases that they had absorbed
    on their journey, and therefore provided pictures and phrases very similar
    to those that Brown had given to them beforehand in a sealed brown envelope.
      Now the executives were amazed at Brown’s supposed prediction skills when
    they opend the envelope after their journey but they shouldn’t have been
    because that’s what their industry does to people’s minds every day.

    One of Brown’s typical tricks is to make people mysteriously fall asleep in
    public phone boxes. Now read carefully how he does this in connection with
    how politicians work:

    “Have they fallen prey to a disease or am I carrying out some trick of the
    mind on the other end of the line? There are two factors at work here.
    First, the group of people subjected to the stunt are particularly
    suggestible. I know this simply because they chose to answer a public phone
    that happened to be ringing as they walked past. Most people would ignore
    it, assuming it was nothing to do with them.”

    “Secondly, once the person answers, I immediately bombard them with a rapid
    set of confusing instructions and facts. I do this for several minutes
    without giving give them a break, then follow it by telling them to fall
    asleep. As seen on the shows, this works.”

    “Public speakers often capitalise on the same response. Have you ever
    listened to a politician giving rapid-fire statistics so fast that the
    audience can't possibly take them in, only to end the speech with a simple,
    memorable phrase? The soundbite comes as such a relief after all those facts
    and figures that this is all the listeners remember.”

    (http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/M/mindcontrol/trick/phone.html)

    Ant McWatt comments:

    Keep in mind Brown’s last point the next time you hear Bush Junior read out
    one of his scripted speeches. After an hour, what do you actually remember
    from what he said?

    Though it didn’t have an immediate effect, the critical analysis of politics
    and capitalist society provided from my education studying sociology, did
    eventually have the affect of making me more sensitive/aware of how
    politicians, religious organizations and the media surreptitiously works.
    In other words – as long as you also turn your critical faculties to what
    you learn from sociologists - you learn to be critical of everything, what
    you read in the paper, see on the TV, the adverts in the local shops and
    what other people say to you i.e. you eventually free your mind.

    Unfortunately, only a minority of people are fortunate enough to study
    sociology at university level and many more people are brought up in a
    typical conservative upbringing where – unless something radical happens in
    their life – maybe unemployment, a civil war or a severely disabling
    accident (for example), they remain unconsciously trapped in their comfort
    zone. Now this is why I go on about being critical with the mainstream
    media and recommend the value of critical texts such as those written by
    Chomsky and Pilger. It doesn’t mean that the latter don’t have their own
    agenda and biases (I know they do!) but they can help (as with even a
    two-bit hypnotist) to analyse what really is going on in this planet of
    ours.

    Best wishes,

    Anthony.

    .

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