From: C.L. Everett (seaelle@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Aug 14 2005 - 16:03:36 BST
Thanks for replying, Ian. I'm still reeling over one of your other posts but
I'm adjusting. Makes so much more sense now. The challenge is completely
different. I was daunted by the wall of words that this forum presents,
almost a smokescreen to the underlying concepts.
About the mental state--I don't think Pirsig can be "got" rationally,
logically, step-by-step, even through the reading of ZMM. So much more plays
into it. You really have to have an epiphany or a mystical experience or "go
over the edge" and come back or even, I really hesitate to say this but it
works for some (a very few, I think) be "born again".
A big part of my dissatisfaction with Lila is Lila--she is just so . . .
'yucky' (a totally subjective emotionally felt value judgment). I just wish
Pirsig would have tried harder to come up with "a plot device" not so base
or at least on a "universal" human level. I'm really with Rigel about Lila
and Pirsig "the Great Author" never convinces me otherwise. She never
attains quality for me.
On 8/13/05, ian glendinning <psybertron@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi CL,
> I had very similar feelings too.
>
> There but for the grace of god - I've said about Pirsig's mental state
> many a time - as he says Socratic wisdom pulls us through.
>
> Feeling dissatisfied with Lila, is not uncommon. When I first started
> my involvement here I too felt he'd overdone it - it looked to me like
> some sort of reaction to serious criticisms of ZMM, and maybe it was.
> My view now is that it did need to be written, and there would be no
> MoQ without Lila.
>
> Ian
>
>
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