From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Aug 19 2005 - 04:42:19 BST
Hi David M & Sam,
The block quote you are referring to is my words, not Sam's, and I'd
be the first to own up to it not being a coherent case (yet), but you
get the essential point.
Glad you agree - sometimes I feel I'm ploughing a lonely furrow on MD.
Which specific last bit didn't you get - the whole block generally or
the final sentence in particular ? I'd like to enlighten if I can.
Ian
On 8/19/05, David M <davidint@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > Nature IS physics IS MoQ IS good quality science IS the best
> > explanation of anything; There is nothing else. MoQ highlights (and
> > almost solves) things missing from "current" (SOMist) physics and
> > science. As a "science" physics is by definition always expanding and
> > updating itself. Looking at the most philosophical of modern
> > scientists, and the most scientific of modern philosophers, everyone
> > seems to recognise the SAME explanatory gaps, and the proposals for
> > plugging them look remarkably similar to me from the MoQ perspective.
> > A perspective which no modern philosophers and scientists seem to
> > have, despite the fact that physics learned almost a century ago that
> > SOMist objectivity is for the birds. Look at my posts on scientists
> > not adopting their own best explanations as everyday common sense -
> > after Deutsch.
>
>
> Hi Sam
>
> Not sure what your last bit is saying. There is a lot in the philosophy of
> science that sounds close to MOQ at the moment such as John Dupre,
> Roy Bhaskar, Prigogine, and Nicholas Maxwell. I do agree that science and
> phil of
> science have been slow to see the implications of the death of SOM,
> determinism, essentialism and reductionism. But I think the turn is now
> taking place.
>
> regards
> David M
>
>
>
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