From: Paul Turner (paul@turnerbc.co.uk)
Date: Sat Sep 17 2005 - 17:22:50 BST
>On 16 Sep 2005 at 8:54, MarshaV wrote:
>
>> At 11:10 AM 9/16/2005 +0100, you wrote:
>
>> >"Since a metaphysics is essentially a kind of definition and since
>> >Quality is essentially outside definition, this means that a
>> >"Metaphysics of Quality" is essentially a contradiction in terms, a
>> >logical absurdity." [LILA, p73]
>
>> Greetings Paul,
>
>> Thanks posting this quote. It's truly wonderful.
Bo replies:
>Pirsig in LILA says many things. The above quote sounds as if
>theories - definitions - are subjective secondhand reflections of
>an objective reality out there, and if this isn't SOM nothing is!
Paul: Subjective reflections of an objective reality *is* SOM. But, of
course, he is talking about Quality being beyond definition, not an
objective reality. Let me spell it out for you:
"Since a metaphysics is essentially a [static pattern] and since [Dynamic]
Quality is essentially outside [static patterns], this means that a "[Static
pattern of Dynamic Quality]" is essentially a contradiction in terms, a
logical absurdity."
>The MOQ is a farewell to the SOM, but there are dubious
>passages in LILA - and in Lila's Child - and Paul defends them
>all. I don't like to discredit Paul, but .... alas!
Paul: Well, I'm taking an extended break from the list so give it your best
shot.
Regards
Paul
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