From: Case (Case@iSpots.com)
Date: Fri Nov 11 2005 - 02:18:51 GMT
> [Case]
> Give me and example of "somethings can have very high
> value or equal value but have very different qualities."
DM: A tiger versus a poem about a tiger
[Case]
That's the thing about Value though. It is about relationship and
relationships can occur at multiple levels across multiple dimensions.
Sometimes the relationships are very tight, exact and quantifiable sometimes
they are not. A poem about a tiger may be seeking to establish an emotional
relationship: fear or humor or wonder. That of course is up to the poet and
the reader. Or the tiger and the runner.
> [David M]
> Also, how does DQ relate to SQ.
>
> [Case]
> They are both aspects of Quality.
DM: I would hope we could put more flesh on it than that.
[Case]
Yin and Yang are the first metaphysical cuts in Taoism. Wave and particle
are the first, or nearly the first cuts in physics. Flesh and spirit in many
religions. Materialism and Idealism in philosophy. What does not make sense,
to me at least, is to divide the undefined into the defined and another
undefined. It is redundant; not a cut at all.
> [David M]
> Is the cosmos not teeming with SQ, bursting forth with new SQ, is this
> abundance and creativity not what DQleaves in its trail?
>
> [Case]
> It is what Quality leaves in its trail. It leaves somethings
> stationary and somethings wiggling. Give me an example of anything
> that is purely static.
DM: I agree there are none.
[Case]
What is cool about this is that it makes things fizzy with relationships.
Mandelbrot developed fractal geometry while studying static for Bell Labs.
They of course were concerned with eliminating it because. What he found was
that static seemed to come in bursts but if he looked at the bursts of
static he found within them bits of silence interspersed with more bursts of
static. Static is composed of bursts and gaps but there are no pure bursts
nor pure gaps. Within the seeming disorder of the static were patterns that
were self similar across scale. There is no pure stasis and there is no
pure disorder either. We just exist in a particular place in the universe
were an enormous number of relationships are possible.
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