From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Fri Apr 04 2003 - 15:24:59 BST
Hey Joe:
> On 02 April 2003 5:55AM Platt writes:
> How about looking at it another way? Since bodily organs directly or
> indirectly respond to and utilize environmental phenomena (lungs-air,
> stomach-food, eyes-scene) perhaps the brain likewise responds to and
> utilizes a field of awareness already present in the environment.
>
> joe: Is awareness in the individual or "present in the
> environment"? I would say both, and I am a tree-hugger. Is awareness only
> in the environment, and present in me as part of a pattern? I do not want
> to change the awareness in the environment, until I know to change myself.
> I want to be able to practice changing my awareness, and if I am wrong to
> go in another direction.
Let's not confuse the injunction "raise your awareness" (as of a potential
environmental catastrophe) with just being aware of everything in general
and nothing in particular. In other words, pure awareness prior to any
pattern whatsoever what is I mean by "field of awareness" just as in
quantum physics there's a field of potential prior to any trace of activity
or change.
> Platt:
> I'm confused by your claim that there are "three aspects of dq present in
> the formation of patterns."
>
> joe: I accept intuition. I think Pirsig does. I want to use words.
> Instead of abstraction as a basis for words, I use 'forming a pattern' to
> which I assign a word.
>
> I accept by intuition that I exist. 'Existence' becomes an aspect of the
> pattern.
>
> I accept by intuition that I act. 'Purpose' becomes an aspect of the
> pattern.
>
> I intuit. (This is different than I act.) 'Quality' becomes an aspect of
> the pattern.
Your three aspects of DQ reminds me of William James' four aspects of
a "fact:"
"A conscious field
plus its object as felt or thought of
plus an attitude towards the object
plus the sense of a self to who the attitude belongs
--such a concrete bit of personal experience may be a small bit, but it
is a solid bit as long as it lasts; not hollow, not a mere abstract element
of experience such as the “object” is when taken alone. It is a full fact of
the kind to which all realities whatsoever must belong."
Platt
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