From: Elizaphanian (elizaphanian@tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Mon Apr 28 2003 - 16:38:16 BST
Hi Scott, DMB,
: Scott said:
: This is why I keep touting Franklin Merrell-Wolff. He too wraps his
: experience in terms native to his culture, but since his culture is that of
: modern intellectuals, that is, ours, his discussion is especially valuable
: to us.
I'm happy with that. Our culture has developed its own mythology, ie what I think of as level 3
thinking. That this can be the base for level 4 thinking seems uncontentious to me
: dmb says:
: Exactly. We can get at mysticism with intellectual terms, at least to some
: extent. Pirsig and Campbell do it. Wilber does it. He even includes the
: findings of a whole range of researchers who have looked into it too. But
: most importantly for our purposes here, mysticism is key to the MOQ
Whereas this I am not happy with. I don't think that 'wrapping the experience in terms native to
[the] culture of modern intellectuals' is the same as being able to 'get at mysticism with
intellectual terms'. The latter implies a cognitive superiority; I think that superiority has to be
demonstrated.
Sam
"Even to have expressed a false thought boldly and clearly is already to have gained a great deal."
Wittgenstein, 1948
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