Re: MD Structuralism in Pirsig

From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed May 28 2003 - 18:33:44 BST

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    Hi Platt,

    I predict Scott will reply that contingent means "dependent on other
    things." or history. Connected to previous experience.

    1) happening by chance or accident; fortuitous,
    --these are terms that speak to our limited knowledge, nothing would be by
    chance if everything were known, but things would still be contingent.

    2) true only under certain conditions; not necessarily or universally
    --except that the "certain conditions" are the way things are, and therefore
    things are contingent universally and necessarily.

    3) some other definition?
    --yes, contingent would mean dependent on history

    >From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
    >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >Subject: Re: MD Structuralism in Pirsig
    >Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 07:57:32 -0400
    >
    >Hi Scott, (Matt):
    >
    >In a post addressed to Matt, Scott wrote:
    >
    > >. . . it is obvious that we use the words differently, so
    > > here I am just showing how I use them.
    >
    >Speaking of using words, please explain what you mean by "contingent" as
    >in the following passages:
    >
    > > Yes
    > > there is an absolute, namely that all patterns are contingent (except
    > > tautological ones, as in mathematics), and that is the starting point of
    > > ironic metaphysics.
    >
    >and
    >
    > > The
    > > mystic Knows that all is contingent, and is therefore free.
    >
    >Do you mean by contingent 1) happening by chance or accident; fortuitous,
    >or 2) true only under certain conditions; not necessarily or universally
    >true, or 3) some other definition?
    >
    >I ask because Rorty and other pomos appear to hang their entire
    >metaphysics on that one word (while denying they have a metaphysics of
    >course).
    >
    >Thanks.
    >
    >Platt
    >
    >
    >
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