Re: MD Illusions--Richard Bach's creatures

From: abahn@comcast.net
Date: Sat Sep 13 2003 - 15:45:00 BST

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    Hi Platt,

    Yes, I have witnessed your interpretation of the MOQ being all about morals on
    this site for some time now. I appreciate your perspective Platt, but I don't
    agree with it. Although, I think morals are important to the MOQ, I don't think
    they were intended by Pirsig to be fixed and absolute. At least, I don't want
    to read Pirsig this way.

    I also liked "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" by Bach and I agree this would make a
    nice metaphor for the MOQ. I remember JLS, the protagonist, straying off from
    the rest of the gulls, society, in order to discover his calling. The rest of
    the gulls were gathered around landfills and beaches, feeding for scraps and
    trash wherever they could find it. All the while JLS was off by himself, all
    alone, practicing flight maneuvers while neglecting his biological and societal
    needs. This journey JLS took is very analogous to being bounced along the
    rocks, alone, away from society. :-)

    Thanks for your thoughts
    Andy
    > Hi Andy,
    >
    > Your "swimming in the stream" metaphor and explanation says nothing
    > about morals. So to claim it's a metaphor for the MOQ is a stretch to
    > say the least. The MOQ is all about morals. Your conclusion seemed to
    > be that it's better not to cling to one set of beliefs, a conclusion I
    > presume we shouldn't cling to either. But I didn't see any rationale
    > to support that conclusion.
    >
    > The MOQ states as an axiom that some things are better than others,
    > then proceeds to answer what, where, when, how and why that axiom
    > creates the world. A good metaphor of the MOQ would do the same, or at
    > the least suggest that the MOQ is about morality, not about "letting go
    > of society."
    >
    > Anyway, I liked Richard Bach's "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" metaphor
    > better. I'd rather fly with the angels than bump along the bottom of a
    > stream. :-)
    >
    > Platt
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