Re: MD Intellectual level - New letter from Pirsig

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Wed Oct 01 2003 - 19:08:58 BST

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    Sam

    Seems to me that it is here that we start to be unable
    to draw a line between Man/Being/God. Is that what you're
    thinking? Can't see how you can't begin ontologically with agency, what is
    very strange is that there is a patterned, repeating, static, finite
    cosmos. Pure agency is surely infinite, we may say divine,
    and free. Yet we have a cosmos of repeating patterns and
    continued emergent creation. Seems to me that you get
    patterns/repetition if you sacrifice your agency, if you value
    what has been created, enough to do it again, loving it,
    allowing it to endure. Is there any alternative to this approach
    that does not produce a non-aware cosmos in any form?

    regards
    David Morey

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Sam Norton" <elizaphanian@tiscali.co.uk>
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    Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:15 PM
    Subject: Re: MD Intellectual level - New letter from Pirsig

    > Hi Paul, anyone,
    >
    > Just while I'm working on a few things relating to this.... ;-)
    >
    > In his letter to you, Pirsig writes:
    > > You have to cut it off somewhere, and it seems to me the
    > > greatest meaning can be given to the intellectual level if it is
    > > confined to the skilled manipulation of abstract symbols that have no
    > > corresponding particular experience and which behave according to rules
    > > of their own.
    >
    > Do you have any idea about who or what might be *doing* the manipulation
    (ie, who or what has the
    > 'skill')? Or is it that the symbols react to Quality on their own, without
    an intermediary? Or
    > something else?
    >
    > Sam
    >
    >
    >
    >
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