Re: MD Intellectual level - New letter from Pirsig

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Fri Oct 10 2003 - 21:18:32 BST

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    Wim
    I suggest patterns help to form space and
    change is what helps to give us time. Think about the cosmos.
    I can see you do it, stars, planets, rivers, creatures. This is a snap shot-
    without time/process a synchronic form of analysis.
    Thinks about time, something on the move like a train.
    All about a particular static pattern appearing in space in
    different places, gives you the idea its moving by this trick,
    fooled Zeno. Without DQ there would be no time, no change
    equals nothing different equals its all the same equals no time.
    Static patterns equals a horse has four legs, a head etc in a particular
    relationship in space. No change through time equals a static pattern.

    Any better?

    regards
    David M

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Wim Nusselder" <wim.nusselder@antenna.nl>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:04 PM
    Subject: Re: MD Intellectual level - New letter from Pirsig

    > Dear David M.,
    >
    > Glad you agree with my association of DQ with agency and sq with
    > patterns/repetition (8 Oct 2003 19:21:12 +0100, 19:30:30 +0100 and
    19:42:51
    > +0100).
    > I don't follow your association of DQ with time and sq with space, nor
    your
    > further speculations about the future, quantum physics etc.. We experience
    > both time and space through patterns/repetition. Without that we would
    only
    > experience endless 'now' and boundless 'void'. Agency/DQ changes those
    > patterns and breaks the repetition both in time (the pattern created now
    is
    > different than before) and in space (going somewhere else we experience
    > other patterns).
    >
    > With friendly greetings,
    >
    > Wim
    >
    >
    >
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