Re: MD Intellectual level - New letter from Pirsig

From: David MOREY (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Fri Oct 10 2003 - 21:37:32 BST

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    Hi

    thinking about the future should be part
    of choice, and that can change everything, at
    least I hope so. Come on dog in trap 6!

    regards
    David M
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    From: "Mati Palm-Leis" <mpalm@merr.com>
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    Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:01 PM
    Subject: RE: MD Intellectual level - New letter from Pirsig

    > David,
    >
    > I would like to point out a couple things. The S/O divide has existed
    > without knowing about it. As far of the dog example the S/O divide
    > exists for the dog even though he doesn't know it. As I see it social
    > level is when living organisms have the capacity for "social learning"
    > or the capacity of being to communicate and learn from one another.
    > Many biological animals exist on the social level in its most primate
    > ways. Your "Social" interaction with your dog is evidence of that.
    > Human beings have developed some of the most sophisticated forms of
    > communications by developing language. Language and the understanding of
    > the future itself did not break the social level into the intellectual
    > level but in my humble estimation created the fertile ground to do so.
    > Language, or the manipulation of symbols did give us the capacity to
    > recognize the S/O divide and in doing so, broke unto the other side into
    > the intellectual level. For the dog the S/O divide is seamless and for
    > us it is not. SOM drove that wedge that created that reality for us, not
    > language itself. As far as the future is concerned it to doesn't change
    > fact, but it is interesting to think about it.
    >
    > Mati
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